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From: Francis R Bridge <bridge@cig.mot.com>
Subject: Re: MS-DOS Kermit, more capabalities
Date: 04 Feb 2000 17:48:07 -0600
Organization: Motorola CIG
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To: kermit.misc@columbia.edu
cangel@famvid.com writes:
> On 2000-02-02 bridge@cig.mot.com said:
>
> --8<--cut
>
> FB>> FD>> You see Michel said this was not an option and was
> FB>> FD>> ignored.
>
> --8<--cut
>
> FB> Who was knocking equipment? Are you saying that an XT is not
> FB> obsolete?
>
> Michel's msgs and my own are written on and transmitted from XT
> machines. Are _you_ saying XTs _are_ obsolete?
Yes, they are. That does not mean they are not usable. A Ford Model T is
obsolete but people are still passionate about them and maybe even using
them to get around. Fine. A different example is in telephone
infrastructure equipment. The Lucent 5ESS switch has been around 25 years.
In that time, many generations of ICs have come and gone. The switch is
being built today with many obsolete ICs that were lifetime bought years
ago. Those ICs, and the products they go into, are still quite usable.
You are probably using one to post your news. But those ICs are quite
obsolete and should not be used in a new design.
But I have an XT as well. I enjoy the nostalgia; the 4 minute boot time,
low level formatting the 5 MB MFM drive once a year, feeling the table
shake as the drive seeks, etc. And it is still quite an effective terminal
with a Hercules card and Kermit.
>
> FB> Well, I don't want to argue the definition, but saying a
> FB> device is obsolete and knocking it are not the same thing.
>
> Right and monkeys fly out of my ...
I don't want to know what you place in your ...
>
> FB> I simply stated that that
> FB> is not true and gave you an avenue to pursue cheap or *FREE*
> FB> material that is more recent than what someone may be using.
>
> Can you not read and interpret English? "IT IS NOT AN OPTION"
Yes, English is my native language; is it yours? My response, which you
have gone out of your way to ignore and misinterpret, was to your statement
that you had to work in the government or academia to get free computers.
I disagreed and stated why and provided options for people to obtain them
if they wish. If it is "not an option" for you FINE. But it very well may
be for others and makes your statement about needing to work in the
government or academia no less a fallacy.
>
> FB> > Yes, Frank, you can throw away what those earning minimum
> FB> > wage cannot purchase. I'm happy for you.
>
> FB> Please read my post, Charles. I made no such statement or
> FB> implication.
>
> Frank, I don't believe a word you say.
Why is that Charles? Just what have I lied about?
-Frank